‘Loose Change’: embarrassment to the 9/11 truth movement
finally finished watching Loose Change, and the only theory i’m halfway sure of now is that the CIA was behind this dishonest, shoddy, assuming, poorly produced piece of trash. 
the first hurdle for any viewer to jump is the combination of a nonsensical pace (slow when it should be fast, and vice versa) with the affected “tough guy” voice of a snot-nosed narrator that screams, “this is why we have iron-fisted directors!”
oh wait. the narrator is the director. explains a lot.
smarmy, sarcastic rib nudging infects the video. the narrator makes an assumption, then it becomes law. he actually points to wikipedia as a source ( mind blowing), then says “rumor has it” x amount of gold bullion was stored under the WTC. shortly after, that rumor has become the gospel whereby he states how much gold was found then asks where all the missing gold is. what a dork — the furthest thing from a dispassionate expose or exploration. and of course there’s the famous claim that a B-52 flew into the empire state building (in 1945), about which the boneheads at loosechange write,
NOTE: In Loose Change 2nd Edition, it is incorrectly referred to as a b-52. We apologize for the error.Now stop e-mailing us about it.
people are emailing for a reason. if the loose change crew knows so little about military aircraft, the pentagon section is even smarmier (and probably explains why the turbine comparisons are rushed). to anybody fluent with aviation, B-25 v. B-52 is not a mere number flip, as it may appear to the uninitiated. those terms connote such different worlds and pictures to aviation experts that probably nobody would say one accidentally for the other even in casual conversation, much less a “documentary, second edition” that should have been scrubbed tightly. those terms aren’t bingo numbers; they are loaded with history for those who know aviation.
the viewer is assaulted with clips out of context to pound in whatever nail the narrator’s pushing at the moment. he wants you to believe that there were multiple explosions throughout the building, so he just jumps from one person to another. “explosion.” “there was an explosion.” all unnecessary hype. apparently, there were many explosions, and it can just be stated, with any witness videos marked clearly as to which building and time they’re referring to. trotting out piles of disconnected clips is worse than worthless.
he can’t make up his mind which theory he supports for the pentagon. was it a cruise missile? then what’s an alleged APU turbine doing in the wreck? the supposed evidence for these claims is given minimal screen time; we are to take the narrator’s word. but what happens when there’s some supposedly meaningful text on the screen? it’s assumed we all read at kindergarten rates. pretentious, docu-BS blather.
he listens to a stewardess who wasn’t screaming her head off, then basically claims that it’s a hoax because she wasn’t behaving as hysterically as he figures she should. except he doesn’t have the balls to make the claim explicitly (and he knows he can’t); it’s all in knowing jabs to the ribs (with the BS music and editing) that make you want to reach out and slap the dishonest punk and whoever supports this nonsense. the vid is a hodgepodge of over-the-top allegations and implications without the serious research and time required to make such claims. and the attitude at the end from snot-nose is, “wow, what a damning case i’ve made. aren’t you angry?”
yeah, i’m angry at you, jerkoff.
if the case against the US government’s conspiracy theory is so convincing, such techniques aren’t necessary. this type of claptrap tends to smear anybody associated with even the mere demand that the US government release evidence it claims, falsely, would be against the interests of the people of the US.
yeah, i doubt the official story, at least with regard to WTC7. i smell a rat. however, i’m embarrassed to even admit it with trollopy fruitloops like dylan avery running around, proud that they learned how to edit video and swoop in on pics like ken burns. cheap. cheap. cheap. i seriously would not be surprised to find that this idiot and several of the supposed leading lights of the 9/11 history revisionists (mostly lunatics and numbskulls) are CIA propped, if not genius psyop types on the full time goon payroll.
May 16th, 2006 at 13:11
you suck
May 19th, 2006 at 05:55
Wow, you are a complete dumb ass. Just because in his research he read the wrong numbers for the B-25, and later recants it, you feel the need to badger him about it? I am sure if I wasn’t on my way to school, I could look through your blog and find some error somewhere.
The fact that he has the “tough guy” voice makes you mad? Well, then it is sort of doing its job then, it made you remember it. That voice is supposed to be demanding, and serious, but if you would have preferred it to be a voice like, let’s say Ozzie Osborne, then you would not be able to understand it for one thing, and you would not be able to remember what was said, cause you would not be paying attention to the images, and facts in the movie clips.
Also, if you are going to make rash statements about these guys either being funded by the CIA or being on the goon payroll, you should probably do research about it first, cause at least the guys on this movie did that much.
mikefosh
May 19th, 2006 at 08:38
Wow, you are a complete dumb ass. [blah blah blah]
you’ve convinced me. loose change rulz, dude! well, except for one major problem: your accuracy in reviewing my review marks you as exactly the sort of drooling, teenybopperish, inconsiderate dumbbell who would embrace the puke that loose change obviously is.
if the psyop crew of the neocon machine shuts down the 9/11 truth movement by releasing the good video of flight 77′s end, it’s the drooling fuck crew — of which you’re a typically dull example — that will have enabled it. cui bono cuts both ways, boy.
May 19th, 2006 at 15:57
Where the f*ck do you get off on calling me teenybopperish? Oh, wow, I am only 16, but I have more of a political background than you ever will, and more political knowlege too.
Also, how the f*ck am I inconsiderate? Cause I didn’t cater to your needs? Cause I decided to point out where you were wrong in your review? Oh, is it when I called you a dumbass, did I hurt your stupid, unresearched feelings?
mikefosh
May 19th, 2006 at 16:14
I am only 16, but I have more of a political background than you ever will, and more political knowlege too.
more nonsense from a child.
Also, how the f*ck am I inconsiderate? Cause I didn’t cater to your needs?
no, the other meaning: not adequately considered (see your imbecilic claims above).
May 20th, 2006 at 13:16
hahahahaha, wow, I have never had such a good laugh. You say that I am nonsense? You defending the government is nonsense. I am gonna officially be the bigger man and stop this right here and right now.
Have a good life being a supporter of the only president that only got the position because of his daddy.
May 20th, 2006 at 13:26
bye, runaway stupid boy dumbshit asshole with deficient brain and eyeballs. keep shilling for Loose Change. nobody but yourself to blame when it bites you in your kumquat ass.
May 21st, 2006 at 09:26
I agree with you saltypig – loose change is just a bunch of crap. I read a very good point by point rebuttal and am now even more unimpressed than I was when I first sat through it. this mikefosh kid is just impressed by the flashy graphics and music track. Blame mtv.
May 21st, 2006 at 09:43
you should be careful though, because he’s 16 and has “more of a political background than you ever will, and more political knowlege too.”
or maybe that was just more than me. not sure.
June 10th, 2006 at 15:01
you suck x2… go kill yourself.
June 12th, 2006 at 07:38
Saltypig,
I agree with you that Loose Change is a complete bunch of crap, but disagree that Dylan Avery is in any way connected with the CIA. The CIA would have done a much better, more subtle job.Avery and friends are just a bunch of dumbshit morons.
June 12th, 2006 at 07:52
the CIA bit was a joke, though i’m keeping an open mind. funny how gullible the supposedly skeptical Loose Change crowd is.
July 2nd, 2006 at 13:06
Good on you, salty pig. I can’t believe the amount of dumbasses who get taken in by this bullshit. I watched this with a friend who was given a copy by a dumbass conspiracy theorist who believes the royal family are lizards. This POS movie flys through the Pentagon section raging on about ‘where is the damage’ and so on, when in many pictures you can see the destruction trails INSIDE the pentagon, meaning it didn’t even hit the outside walls.
And he expects us to believe an orange pixel is conclusive proof of a missile, delivered from the undersection of a passenger plane.
It’s funny when he quotes articles. Most have a convincing counter-point in clear view around the highlighted areas.
And he seems to conveniantly forget the previous WTC bombing carried out by a jihadist.
Some people need to wake up and smell the shit they are shovelling.
July 2nd, 2006 at 13:29
thanks for the comment. agree with most everything you said, except the implied relevance of the ’93 bombing. that one works in both directions (as cover for a false flag op, or as in line with the government’s conspiracy theory).
September 11th, 2006 at 20:56
anyone who thinks loose change sucks, is a dumbfuck who has no life and all they do is bitch about peoples opinions. Loose Change is an opinion…so why dont you go cry about it if you didnt like it…which im sure you did anyway.
September 11th, 2006 at 20:57
anyone who thinks loose change sucks, is a dumbfuck who has no life and all they do is bitch about peoples opinions. Loose Change is an opinion…so why dont you go cry about it if you didnt like it…which im sure you did anyway.
September 11th, 2006 at 22:49
thanks guys. I havent had such a good laugh in a long time. Isn’t it wonderful that we can have different opinions. Isnt freedom great.
Why has no one addressed the impossibilies of keeping all people quiet who would have been involved with such a plot. It would have taken hundreds. And no one has leaked any information to the media??? Even 5 years later??? Com on now… Why is it so hard to beileve that there are bad guys out there that hate the U.S.
Excuse me for believing that most Americans really care for our country and believe the best. There is no better place to live. If you find it please feel free to go. Then we will see who the real dumbass is…
September 13th, 2006 at 07:44
I love you conspiracy theorist, you dipshits are so gullible. I bet I could sell you dog shit.
September 13th, 2006 at 15:00
you allege that 9/11 was not the result of more than one person working in secret toward an illegal or wrongful goal, or do you just not understand or care what “conspiracy” means?
September 19th, 2006 at 05:15
As far as I am concerned there is no solid evidence proving one side or the other. But he brought up one strong point. Who would gain from it all? I am certain that terrorist groups like al qaeda would know the end result of making an attack like that, I dont think they would intentionally bring the iron fist down right on top of them, we have imprisoned and killed their women and children.
The Bush administration had everything to gain. They are using scare tactics to take away our civil rights. We really are on the doorstep of a totalitarian government, we have religion infesting every aspect of foreign policy for christs sake. All my life I thought I lived in a democracy, I truly believed that if our government ever showed signs of fascism or totalitarian control that everything would be okay because the people wouldnt stand for it. But the thing that scares me the most now is that we are asking for it. We are just giving away our rights.
June 3rd, 2007 at 16:36
you people need to wake up and smell the coffee. Like it or not, Bushie and his crew are responisble for the atrocities of 9/11. Originally, they were going to just plant a bomb in the building and then blame some Iraqis but that would be too easy so instead they decided plant a bomb and hijack a plane, hide the real plane and the passengers and find a way to shut up all folks who work for the airline who would obviously know when their plane went off course. Then they paid off the people involved in sneaking the real plane in piloted by robot drones. Then they paid off a shit loads of experts to say that the plane alone was responsible. Then they paid off people to hide the original plane. Then they were free to start a war with Iraq because of terrorist attack carried out by people not from Iraq. Can’t you see how much sense it makes?
June 3rd, 2007 at 16:46
Then they paid off
every day i’m loathing that sarcastic argument style more and more. seems like the internet’s thrown gasoline on it. any position can be argued against with that moronic approach. does nothing but make an ass out of the practitioner, and maybe convince a few other fools.
September 11th, 2007 at 09:38
ok look. its plain and simple.
both sides have valid points. no question.
terrorist side – “why would the government do such a thing? it has to be terrorist”
government side – the things link up. Though in the movie, they could fabricate ALOT, and could just piece things together to make you believe things.
BUT the couple things i really dont get are this.
- why on earth were the planes not taken down, especiall near the pentagon. its the most highly secured place. If they can’t protect that (while its the most secured) then what the hell could happen next. Another thing. The engine at the pentagon. Why the fuck was it a small one.. nott he size of the commercial planes we fly in???
-and another thing, how the buildings fell.
they say that a whole bunch of other buildings were on fire but never fell… well, thats kind of stupid because those buildings had fires, not planes crash into them LOL. wow. can’t believe that was an example in it. BUT i still dont think that the buildings would have crashed down fully. because the way the building was structured was built to withstand force. like earthquakes. yes there was debrey falling everywhere, but for the building to have actually fallen. ALL the way. I dont get it. Dont you think that maybe it would have stopped maybe half way down. This is my theory-
the pieces of the WTC that falls on the outer edge (the walls) will fall outside of the building into the city and streets. meaning they are not going to have a HUGE impact on the rest of the building falling. the structures that fell from INSIDE the WTC falls straigt down. knocking the rest of the floors down, I dont get out the rest of the outer edges would fall COMPLETELY. Dont you think there would be at least a little bit of the building left?
I mean im no architecht, so please correct me if i am wrong. Which i probably am, but it just seemed like a common sense thing to me. Then when they showed that the tripod shakes when they were recording the buildings before they fell… that could be real, like a “earthquake” shock as if it were a bomb. but then again, you know as well as i do, computer effects can do alot these days. Including the “poofs” of explosions under the implosion as it was coming down. Though i think that the puffs of smoke and dust, the “so called bombs” that were planted, could have been “adobe after effected” in there. But i do think that if it was an effect in there, it was an extrememly good one. I study film and video production. Effects like that, it looked real. But then again, I have been not really into the WHOLE deal of special effects in latest movies, but like i said, “movies” …meaning professionals…
One last thing. Phone calls from sky high flying… Is it even possible? I know they have those things on airplanes so that you can call people. but It was cell phone calls…. thats another thing i am fishy about…
As you can see, i see things that make sense from both sides.
so please, inform me information from reliable sources, and help me make up my mind.
I dont want explanations, because that could be fabricated as well.
I would like PURE evidence. Pictures from online, and explanations to them, and video. some audio. whatever. please.
I dont want any “your an idiot for believing this and that” because obviously. we all dont know WHAT to believe. otherwise if we KNEW we wouldn’t be talking about it online. Talking about it means there is still question there…and interest in the other side and views….
September 11th, 2007 at 10:56
- why on earth were the planes not taken down, especiall near the pentagon.
i and many other sane people have raised that issue repeatedly.
The engine at the pentagon. Why the fuck was it a small one..
who said it was a small engine? i haven’t researched it much, but this site appears to address the subject adequately.
-and another thing, how the buildings fell.
i agree it’s surprising. impossible, given the conspiracy theory advanced by the official american crime syndicate (US “government”)? i have no idea.
I mean im no architecht,
i doubt whether the average architect would know more than anyone else about destruction possibilities.
Phone calls from sky high flying… Is it even possible?
dude, if you really cared about these subjects, you’d have researched them more. this sure as fuck isn’t the place to get dispositive evidence. i do know that the claims of the Loose Change morons re cell phone operation at relevant altitudes have been roundly thrashed.
so please, inform me information from reliable sources, and help me make up my mind.
no. given the publicly available evidence, i know all i need to know about the 9/11 attacks, and don’t wish to become an expert. if someone else wants to answer your somewhat childish/helpless plea, doing your work for you, i won’t interfere. ya sound like a goddamned putz though, given the tons of easily obtained argument on these subjects.
September 11th, 2007 at 14:30
chill out man. All i was saying that there are questions from both or even thirds of views on this. and alot still isn’t answered….
no need to go bombardo on my ass.
i never said i believe or dont believe something. just some things seem fishy from both sides.
i just did research about osama being left handed. its bullshit. its against the “rules” or “forbidden” to use your left hand to eat. so he may be left handed but you must eat with your right hand and wipe ass w/ left. lol.
like i said fabrication. I’m sure that the loos change footage has fabrication that they didnt even know of. just because they heard it from somewhere else. but like everyone says. cant believe everything you hear…. that statement contradicts itself …
someone says “cant believe everything you hear…” …well, i heard that said to me many times.
I dont believe everything. Just parts. I make my own belief so that no one harrasses me on what is right or wrong. So far, my opinion. is that NO one knows what has really happened. Except the government. because they truly do know if they DID or NOT. Maybe not who if they didnt, but they certainly know for themselves….
peace out. I’m done with this topic just thought id share my view and thoughts on this.