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		<title>By: saltypig</title>
		<link>http://saltypig.com/2007/10/prick-of-the-podiobook-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2575</link>
		<dc:creator>saltypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comments that slay themselves. get steve jobs to patent that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comments that slay themselves. get steve jobs to patent that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Wallach</title>
		<link>http://saltypig.com/2007/10/prick-of-the-podiobook-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2574</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Wallach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! You&#039;re still so mad! I&#039;m glad I was able to inspire such passion!

The only point I&#039;d like to correct, the one you seem a bit confused on, is whether or not I asked for money. My point is that I did request money while doing the podcast (again, as was my right, in my own podcast), but when I decided to stop the book, and Evo told me that the money that had been donated to the book-in-progress would be directed towards other projects, I said &quot;Great&quot;. Okay. That&#039;s all I got. Enjoy tearing this one apart as well.

-t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! You&#8217;re still so mad! I&#8217;m glad I was able to inspire such passion!</p>
<p>The only point I&#8217;d like to correct, the one you seem a bit confused on, is whether or not I asked for money. My point is that I did request money while doing the podcast (again, as was my right, in my own podcast), but when I decided to stop the book, and Evo told me that the money that had been donated to the book-in-progress would be directed towards other projects, I said &#8220;Great&#8221;. Okay. That&#8217;s all I got. Enjoy tearing this one apart as well.</p>
<p>-t</p>
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		<title>By: saltypig</title>
		<link>http://saltypig.com/2007/10/prick-of-the-podiobook-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>saltypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What a pointlessly angry letter&lt;/blockquote&gt;pointless would be if i got nothing from it. i got everything i wanted from it, which was to begin the economics correction of a blight that has infected the &quot;free&quot; audiobook world.

&lt;blockquote&gt;1) As Evo says, I never got paid, and never asked for it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

after which you write,

&lt;blockquote&gt;I asked for money at the beginning of my chapters, because people were still getting free stuff.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

just sitting here shaking my head in disbelief at your apparent confusion.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you didn’t like my appeals for a bit of cash, you didn’t have to listen.&lt;/blockquote&gt;it&#039;s this bullshit game? okay. if you didn&#039;t like me bitching about your bullshit economics hurls, you didn&#039;t have to read.

see how that goes? you&#039;re a moron. &quot;wahhhhh&quot;. &quot;wahhhhhhh&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But it’s totally fair for me to ask for money. As it was totally fair for you to stop listening.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

whatever the fuck &quot;totally fair&quot; means there. i know what it means: it means you have fuckall to say, but this &quot;your entitled to your opinion&quot; variant makes it look as if you&#039;re refuting something. moron.

&lt;blockquote&gt;, but there’s no reason to treat me like some kind of asshole.&lt;/blockquote&gt;no, you&#039;re an asshole. on one hand you say &quot;free&quot;, on the other you say &quot;not free&quot; &#8212; all with the usual ludicrous denial of the going market rate for your instant work: zip. ... except when you&#039;re shouting that it&#039;s free ... in a speech asking for money because ... it&#039;s free.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If I HAD been paid for my work, I would’ve finished,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

blah blah blah. and if you were kurt vonnegut, what would you&#039;ve done? completely nonresponsive horse shit intended to mimic refutation. of what? nothing i said.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I never did anything wrong to anybody, especially you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What a pointlessly angry letter</p></blockquote>
<p>pointless would be if i got nothing from it. i got everything i wanted from it, which was to begin the economics correction of a blight that has infected the &#8220;free&#8221; audiobook world.</p>
<blockquote><p>1) As Evo says, I never got paid, and never asked for it.</p></blockquote>
<p>after which you write,</p>
<blockquote><p>I asked for money at the beginning of my chapters, because people were still getting free stuff.</p></blockquote>
<p>just sitting here shaking my head in disbelief at your apparent confusion.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you didn’t like my appeals for a bit of cash, you didn’t have to listen.</p></blockquote>
<p>it&#8217;s this bullshit game? okay. if you didn&#8217;t like me bitching about your bullshit economics hurls, you didn&#8217;t have to read.</p>
<p>see how that goes? you&#8217;re a moron. &#8220;wahhhhh&#8221;. &#8220;wahhhhhhh&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>But it’s totally fair for me to ask for money. As it was totally fair for you to stop listening.</p></blockquote>
<p>whatever the fuck &#8220;totally fair&#8221; means there. i know what it means: it means you have fuckall to say, but this &#8220;your entitled to your opinion&#8221; variant makes it look as if you&#8217;re refuting something. moron.</p>
<blockquote><p>, but there’s no reason to treat me like some kind of asshole.</p></blockquote>
<p>no, you&#8217;re an asshole. on one hand you say &#8220;free&#8221;, on the other you say &#8220;not free&#8221; &mdash; all with the usual ludicrous denial of the going market rate for your instant work: zip. &#8230; except when you&#8217;re shouting that it&#8217;s free &#8230; in a speech asking for money because &#8230; it&#8217;s free.</p>
<blockquote><p>If I HAD been paid for my work, I would’ve finished,</p></blockquote>
<p>blah blah blah. and if you were kurt vonnegut, what would you&#8217;ve done? completely nonresponsive horse shit intended to mimic refutation. of what? nothing i said.</p>
<blockquote><p>I never did anything wrong to anybody, especially you.</p></blockquote>
<p>classic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Wallach</title>
		<link>http://saltypig.com/2007/10/prick-of-the-podiobook-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Wallach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Hello!

What a pointlessly angry letter, found so many years down the line! Sorry I pissed you off so much. As one of the few people who clearly cares about books, you are the last person I&#039;d want to alienate. But a few quick notes, as I just happened upon your post:

1) As Evo says, I never got paid, and never asked for it. So please don&#039;t make me out to be some kind of greedy dick. As I said, if you look at the comment thread for the book: &quot;http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/06/27/the-bright-child/&quot;, no writer gets into it for the money.

2) I didn&#039;t guilt trip anybody about paying. I asked for money at the beginning of my chapters, because people were still getting free stuff. Yes, I didn&#039;t finish, which I apologized for (again, in the comment thread; if you look, you&#039;ll see that my emails explaining myself never got through to Evo, which is why I seemed to have disappeared). If you didn&#039;t like my appeals for a bit of cash, you didn&#039;t have to listen. The novel was released under Creative Commons, which means it was entirely free, as I knew. But it&#039;s totally fair for me to ask for money. As it was totally fair for you to stop listening.

Plenty of TV shows don&#039;t get picked up after the first season, leaving the plot hanging (Firefly, for example). But people can&#039;t ask for the time they spent watching ads back. Because they still got some value out of it, even if it didn&#039;t resolve. If you disagree, fine, but there&#039;s no reason to treat me like some kind of asshole. I finish plenty of things (including five novels, may they please god sell some day), but wasn&#039;t enjoying The Bright Child. If I HAD been paid for my work, I would&#039;ve finished, out of respect and duty. But I wasn&#039;t paid. I was experimenting with a free medium. The price the listeners pay is they may occasionally not get a whole book. The payoff is that they never HAVE to pay for anything. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

3) I understand your shtick is to get ridiculously angry about everything that bothers you. And that&#039;s cool. Keep on screaming. But remember that real people actually exist out here, even if they don&#039;t seem very real through the net. Being needlessly mean and offensive doesn&#039;t win you any points in the long run. I never did anything wrong to anybody, especially you.

Respectfully,

tommy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Hello!</p>
<p>What a pointlessly angry letter, found so many years down the line! Sorry I pissed you off so much. As one of the few people who clearly cares about books, you are the last person I&#8217;d want to alienate. But a few quick notes, as I just happened upon your post:</p>
<p>1) As Evo says, I never got paid, and never asked for it. So please don&#8217;t make me out to be some kind of greedy dick. As I said, if you look at the comment thread for the book: &#8220;http://www.podiobooks.com/blog/2007/06/27/the-bright-child/&#8221;, no writer gets into it for the money.</p>
<p>2) I didn&#8217;t guilt trip anybody about paying. I asked for money at the beginning of my chapters, because people were still getting free stuff. Yes, I didn&#8217;t finish, which I apologized for (again, in the comment thread; if you look, you&#8217;ll see that my emails explaining myself never got through to Evo, which is why I seemed to have disappeared). If you didn&#8217;t like my appeals for a bit of cash, you didn&#8217;t have to listen. The novel was released under Creative Commons, which means it was entirely free, as I knew. But it&#8217;s totally fair for me to ask for money. As it was totally fair for you to stop listening.</p>
<p>Plenty of TV shows don&#8217;t get picked up after the first season, leaving the plot hanging (Firefly, for example). But people can&#8217;t ask for the time they spent watching ads back. Because they still got some value out of it, even if it didn&#8217;t resolve. If you disagree, fine, but there&#8217;s no reason to treat me like some kind of asshole. I finish plenty of things (including five novels, may they please god sell some day), but wasn&#8217;t enjoying The Bright Child. If I HAD been paid for my work, I would&#8217;ve finished, out of respect and duty. But I wasn&#8217;t paid. I was experimenting with a free medium. The price the listeners pay is they may occasionally not get a whole book. The payoff is that they never HAVE to pay for anything. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.</p>
<p>3) I understand your shtick is to get ridiculously angry about everything that bothers you. And that&#8217;s cool. Keep on screaming. But remember that real people actually exist out here, even if they don&#8217;t seem very real through the net. Being needlessly mean and offensive doesn&#8217;t win you any points in the long run. I never did anything wrong to anybody, especially you.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>tommy</p>
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		<title>By: saltypig</title>
		<link>http://saltypig.com/2007/10/prick-of-the-podiobook-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>saltypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good for you, evo. i&#039;ve wondered what it must be like for an author who enters the process with the story undone. that pressure can be good for terminal fretters (worked for me when i wrote music under deadline), but it&#039;s a risky, potentially very unpleasant prospect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW, finished &lt;em&gt;Grey&lt;/em&gt; tonight (in paper form, obviously). not gonna tell you how it ends. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good for you, evo. i&#8217;ve wondered what it must be like for an author who enters the process with the story undone. that pressure can be good for terminal fretters (worked for me when i wrote music under deadline), but it&#8217;s a risky, potentially very unpleasant prospect.</p>
<p>BTW, finished <em>Grey</em> tonight (in paper form, obviously). not gonna tell you how it ends. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Evo Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evo Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Tell us how you really feel? :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In all seriousness, you are obviously justified in your ire. But to a point about a policy I&#039;ve enacted to protect against this very real thing? I don&#039;t &quot;fund&quot; any donations to the author until the book is completed. In fact, I very cheerfully refund any donations made to books that are incomplete. We don&#039;t want to be viewed as wankers, too. :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Tell us how you really feel? :)</p>
<p>In all seriousness, you are obviously justified in your ire. But to a point about a policy I&#8217;ve enacted to protect against this very real thing? I don&#8217;t &#8220;fund&#8221; any donations to the author until the book is completed. In fact, I very cheerfully refund any donations made to books that are incomplete. We don&#8217;t want to be viewed as wankers, too. :)</p>
<p>E.</p>
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